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		<title>By: Thomas Pindelski</title>
		<link>http://pindelski.org/Photography/2007/05/28/beating-the-burn/comment-page-1/#comment-17608</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Pindelski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 02:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.  Thanks for the link - an interesting read.  Fraser is an excellent writer who makes technical mumbo-jumbo (almost) intelligible.

He does refer to the &#039;real sensitivity&#039; of a sensor which may be the same thing I&#039;m saying, but I&#039;m an empiricist where he is an engineer. 

Simply stated, I know it comes out better in high contrast situations when I underexpose one stop in the 5D then use Aperture to restore the shadows.  Try it and see.  

Another alternative with high contrast scenes is multiple image &lt;a href=http://pindelski.org/Photography/2006/07/15/finally-a-good-hdr-image/ target=_blank rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HDR&lt;/a&gt; but, let&#039;s face it, it&#039;s a real pain to do, and limited to stationary subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.  Thanks for the link &#8211; an interesting read.  Fraser is an excellent writer who makes technical mumbo-jumbo (almost) intelligible.</p>
<p>He does refer to the &#8216;real sensitivity&#8217; of a sensor which may be the same thing I&#8217;m saying, but I&#8217;m an empiricist where he is an engineer. </p>
<p>Simply stated, I know it comes out better in high contrast situations when I underexpose one stop in the 5D then use Aperture to restore the shadows.  Try it and see.  </p>
<p>Another alternative with high contrast scenes is multiple image <a href=http://pindelski.org/Photography/2006/07/15/finally-a-good-hdr-image/ target=_blank rel="nofollow">HDR</a> but, let&#8217;s face it, it&#8217;s a real pain to do, and limited to stationary subjects.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 01:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, I did not know that about LL.  So, on to another source. On this Adobe page &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html&lt;/A&gt; there is a link to &quot;Linear gamma&quot;, by Bruce Fraser.  Seems to be saying what you did - but I&#039;m very new to all of this.

I hope having inadvertently reminded you of something annoying, I&#039;ve provided some reasonable reading compensation :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I did not know that about LL.  So, on to another source. On this Adobe page <a HREF="http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html</a> there is a link to &#8220;Linear gamma&#8221;, by Bruce Fraser.  Seems to be saying what you did &#8211; but I&#8217;m very new to all of this.</p>
<p>I hope having inadvertently reminded you of something annoying, I&#8217;ve provided some reasonable reading compensation <img src='http://pindelski.org/Photography/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Pindelski</title>
		<link>http://pindelski.org/Photography/2007/05/28/beating-the-burn/comment-page-1/#comment-17604</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Pindelski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 20:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arun - 

I don&#039;t know and, frankly, I no longer read LL owing to their &lt;a href=http://pindelski.org/Photography/2006/11/11/leicas-watergate/ target=_blank rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dishonest reporting&lt;/a&gt; on the Leica M8.  When I want fiction I don&#039;t go the the fact section.  How can you ever trust this fellow ever again when he as much as admits to being in the pockets of the makers?

However, it&#039;s probably a combination of the fact that the 5D&#039;s sensor is 1/3 to 1/2 stop more sensitive than indicated (maybe the exposure determination discounts this?) and older sensor design.  It&#039;s interesting to note that the specs of the yet to be released Canon 1D Mark III provide for dynamic range extension with the push of a button - they illustrate it at work with a bride&#039;s wedding dress.  Dynamic range extension has to be the next step in sensor design (I hope) - meanwhile, I stick with underexposing on contrasty subjects.

We will see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arun &#8211; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know and, frankly, I no longer read LL owing to their <a href=http://pindelski.org/Photography/2006/11/11/leicas-watergate/ target=_blank rel="nofollow">dishonest reporting</a> on the Leica M8.  When I want fiction I don&#8217;t go the the fact section.  How can you ever trust this fellow ever again when he as much as admits to being in the pockets of the makers?</p>
<p>However, it&#8217;s probably a combination of the fact that the 5D&#8217;s sensor is 1/3 to 1/2 stop more sensitive than indicated (maybe the exposure determination discounts this?) and older sensor design.  It&#8217;s interesting to note that the specs of the yet to be released Canon 1D Mark III provide for dynamic range extension with the push of a button &#8211; they illustrate it at work with a bride&#8217;s wedding dress.  Dynamic range extension has to be the next step in sensor design (I hope) &#8211; meanwhile, I stick with underexposing on contrasty subjects.</p>
<p>We will see.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://pindelski.org/Photography/2007/05/28/beating-the-burn/comment-page-1/#comment-17603</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does this relate to the general dictum &quot;Shoot to the right&quot;?
e.g. &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/expose-right.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;

Is it that Canon has already pushed too far to the right on the 5D  and so we need to underexpose?

Thanks in advance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does this relate to the general dictum &#8220;Shoot to the right&#8221;?<br />
e.g. <a HREF="http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/expose-right.shtml" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>Is it that Canon has already pushed too far to the right on the 5D  and so we need to underexpose?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance!</p>
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